Crypto-9/11 Plot Revealed!
This news was so hot I had to notify Auguste by Instant Messenger!
LA: Did you hear?
LA: Suspected illegal Mexican day-laborers were behind 9/11 the whole timeAuguste: ohhhhh!
Auguste: it’s all so clearLA: They hatched the plot at a 7/11 in Virginia.
Auguste: right
Auguste: actually - no
Auguste: I heard
Auguste: they hatched the plot at one of those day laborer sites a city in New Hampshire built
Auguste: thank god other cities are throwing city councils out for suggesting themLA: Oh shit - you’re probably right
Auguste: I say we bomb the day labor sites
Auguste: at night - they’ll never expect itLA: Shock and awe
[pause…]
Auguste: dude, you weren’t even kidding!
Auguste: I thought you were being dadaist!LA: Michelle’s all over the story!
LA: Connecting the dots!
LA: NEVER FORGET!Auguste: I totally thought you were kidding. I should know better than that.
LA: She even brought her boyfriend Bryan Preston along to secretly film the Mexicans.
LA: I wonder if Jesse was there?
LA: I wonder if Jesse would have savagely beaten Bryan Preston if he got spooked by the camera?
Yes, fellow race-traitors - Michelle, Bryan and possibly Jesse just dropped one straight into the laps of the Open Borders Lobby and pinning 9/11 on a tequila-crazed “Viva Bush” mariachi band from Jalisco that had grown frustrated after not landing a birthday-party gig after 20 consecutive days of showing up at what they thought was the designated day-laborer site (it was actually a methadone clinic). Their hearts filled with rage they recruited a gang of disenchanted young Arab men (who they met at the clinic), forged Virginia drivers’ licenses for them, trained them in the dark-arts of ka-ra-te (with a little capoeira mixed in for good measure) and sent them on their dirty deed. The rest, of course is history.
[Why is Michelle so sad?]
Update: The caption on the photo says, “Jesse! One of those frijoles licked our lowrider!” Not my best work. I have a pickup-truck full of Mexicans coming over to mow my lawn in a moment, however, so I don’t have time to write a better one. I’ve started a thread on my site, however, for a caption contest.
You can’t win if you don’t play.

I don’t always agree with Malkin, but your comments are stupid.
I watched her segment. Nowhere did she say 9/11 was plotted by Hispanic illegals. She merely pointed out that a Guatemalan illegal helped obtain fake identification for some of the 9/11 hijackers.
This is absolutely correct and a completely valid point about a serious issue; that is, fake identification and its potential use by terrorists in carrying out attacks and the fact that this traffic is sustained by illegal immigrants who use fake identification for far more mundane purposes.
I think it is something that should concern everyone.
I’m sorry you don’t take 9/11 or terrorism very seriously but sniping at her about this is silly and incredibly petty and shows that this site simply doesn’t have much to contribute to the discourse on the subject.
Comment by mark — May 18, 2006 @ 4:16 am
There’s only one thing I take more seriously than terrorism, Mark, and that’s quality lawn care.
With fertilizer’s petrochemical base and the rising cost of gasoline do you have any concept of the costs involved with maintaining a PGA-tour quality yard? Today? In NEW ENGLAND for Christ’s sake?
There’s something called the “circle of life,” Mark, and that circle includes inexpensive migrant labor to rake, aerate, water and fertilize MY GODDAMN YARD.
I’m sorry that you don’t take LAWN CARE seriously, amigo. There’s only one person responsible for THAT decision.
Think about it.
Comment by LA — May 18, 2006 @ 11:29 am
Mark -
Point well made, and, as a completely un-intended assist I’m sure, your point is nicely proven (thanks moron!) by LA’s response. The fact that you believed you could get a serious, well-reasoned response shows that you haven’t had much experience Malkin/BushitlerchimpyMcHalliburton haters. These sites are always fun to read but never to be taken seriously, even when they think they are being amazingly witty and sarcastic, and actually thinking they are making a serious point to anyone. Sad news…you’re only good for a chuckle at your own outlandish mis-characterizations of M.Malkins arguments. Perhaps there would actually be more than one or two comments on this site if you actually tried listening to the points people like M.Malkin are making, and then gave a reasoned response. I know this is tilting at windmills, but here goes: Do you have any arguments to refute Michelle’s basic contention that the presence of many millions of illegal aliens is directly responsible for the easy availability of false documents, at that this FACT in any way contributed, no matter how small, to the ability of some of the 9/11 hijackers to carry out their mission using these false documents? If not, why not? Care to respond? I mean, other than to just make fun of Michelle, which yes, is always good for a chuckle, even with those who strongly disagree with you. Just to see how nuts she makes you guys. Its HI-larious! LOL
Comment by Con Ky — May 18, 2006 @ 5:27 pm
BushitlerchimpyMcHalliburton!
That one always kills me.
Comment by LA — May 18, 2006 @ 5:56 pm
Mark, Con Ky, you guys forgot about Poland!
Comment by Sirkowski — May 18, 2006 @ 6:26 pm
How come this is the first time we’ve heard of this? I have a sneaking suspicion why
Comment by Chris — May 18, 2006 @ 6:31 pm
Con
The rise in illegal immigration is not due to a proliferation of artists entering the false document industry, but rather an aspect of the U.S. having dramatically cut back on issuing green cards. THe actual number of persons entering the country from Latin America has remained steady, but now we don’t have documentation on them.
It isn’t about the availability of false documents at all as the majority are without documents.
Comment by Red — May 18, 2006 @ 7:07 pm
It’s all about the ChemLawn, baby!
Comment by LA — May 18, 2006 @ 7:32 pm
Well shut my mouth! A thoughtful, reasoned comment - even if it doesn’t address Michelle’s specific point, or my question. Much as your comment is appreciated, the issue is not what is causing the increase in illegal immigration. By the way, what is your source for claiming that ths US has cut back on issuing green cards? Just curious. It is a fact that the large numbers of illegals in the US has caused there to be a thriving industry in false documents, and it is a fact that 9/11 hijackers TOOK ADVANTAGE of this false document industry to help carry out their attack. Michelle’s point stands unrefuted. You say: “it isn’t about the availability of false documents at all as the majority are without documents.” Umm..no, not true. IFCO, which was recently raided by ICE agents and had over 1,000 illegal alien employees arrested, was initially busted due to the fact that ICE agents noticed an unusually high number of FAKE SOCIAL SECURITY numbers of employees of the business. Therefore, it was the unusually high number of FALSE DOCUMENTS that tipped ICE off to all of the illegal aliens working there. Many more illegal aliens have false documents than you may think my friend.
Comment by Con Ky — May 18, 2006 @ 8:11 pm
This is just a part of fear mongering by nutjobs like Malkin. In other developments, Alberto Gonzales said he is “unclear” whether his grandparents came here legally.
Comment by Tim — May 18, 2006 @ 9:34 pm
Con Ky–
If we issued more green cards, then there wouldn’t be a fake document industry for these terrorists to turn to. So by Malkin’s logic, we could have prevented 9/11 by issuing more work permits, thus putting the forgers out of business.
But of couse, that’s a trade that Malkin wouldn’t make, because she hates Mexicans more than she fears terrorism.
Unfortunately, that logic only works in the silly universe that exists only in Malkin’s mind. In the real world, the terrorists would have found somebody to forge documents for them. It may have been harder for them to find someone to forge the documents if we issued more green cards, but the terrorists would have gotten their documents.
So Malkin’s point about immigration is a complete non-sequitor in the debate about terrorism.
Comment by gordo — May 18, 2006 @ 11:07 pm
Fatso: Again, nice to see a thoughtful comment, however flawed. More green cards does not necessarily = fewer forged documents, as any increase in green card issuance will be inevitably followed by more illegals coming here as long as the border remains ridiculously easy to cross and we continue to practice “catch and release.” Interestingly, Red has yet to respond to the bogus claim that we have been issuing fewer green cards in recent years. Not so. The number of aliens eligible to be admitted for Lawful Permanent Residence (green cards) is fairly constant on a yearly basis, usually increasing slightly per year as caps are adjusted. I think you are also forgetting about the MILLIONS of people in China, India, Phillipines, and yes, Mexico who filed their applications through proper channels and are still waiting for their visas to become current while we deal with the millions of “line-jumpers” who took matters into their own hands. Where are the green cards for these suckers who decided to play by the rules? Shouldn’t they all be issued their green cards FIRST before we reward the line jumpers? Regardless, this is all off topic. If you want to get edu-ma-cated go to Dep. of State Visa Bulletin and take a gander at the waiting list for the saps who got in line. Mexico, for LEGAL immigrants, is backlogged to cases filed in 1989!
“In the real world, terrorists would have found somebody to forge documents for them.” Smoke and mirrors here my friend. They might have, but they didn’t! That’s Michelle’s whole point. Deal with the issue at hand, not a made up “silly universe.” The 9/11 hijackers utilized the cover of the many illegal immigrants who are here and the forged document industry these immigrants helped spawn to accomplish their dirty work - which you seem oddly reluctant to acknowledge. Why is that? Does it pain you too much to concede that the “nutjob” may actually have a point?
Its fun to use big words. Do you know what non-sequitor means? If Michelle’s point “does not follow”, why have so many people, including the president the other night, acknowledged that in order to help combat, (I said help, not completely eliminate), the terrorist threat, we must bring illegal immigrants ” out of the shadows” and come up with a “tamper proof” identity card. Where have you been this year? Michelle is far from the only person making this point. Simply asserting Michelle hates Mexicans contributes nothing to the debate. That’s not a reasoned argument. Otherwise, nice try. Peace.
Comment by Con Ky — May 18, 2006 @ 11:53 pm
Do you think that Michelle is fond of Mexicans, Con Ky?
Comment by LA — May 19, 2006 @ 12:21 am
LA:
Honestly, it does disturb me how she seems to pander and demagogue this very serious issue with particular regard to Mexican immigrants. No, I don’t think she is fond of Mexicans, which is disturbing, to say the least, because I believe she is an immigrant herself. However, just as even a broken clock is right twice a day - she sometimes gets it right on other matters despite her apparent prejudices. Peace, I’m out.
Comment by Con Ky — May 19, 2006 @ 3:05 am
Does it matter whether or not she’s an immigrant? She isn’t, btw - but I don’t think it’s relevant.
Comment by LA — May 19, 2006 @ 3:29 am
[Read this Con Ky]
Comment by LA — May 19, 2006 @ 3:38 am
LA:
How did I know you would bring that up? You are right - it made no sense to say that - it was late and I was trying to concede an observation of yours. Take out sentence #2 and the rest stands. The spirit of what I was trying to say is that as we all have immigrant roots (her parents came from the Philippines as immigrants) and it doesn’t hurt to show some empathy to more recent immigrants, even as we acknowledge that there being here illegally and undocumented contributes to a variety of problems. No particular reason to show more or less empathy for immigrants from Mexico, as opposed to anywhere else, but I wish she would from time to time.
Comment by Con Ky — May 19, 2006 @ 2:03 pm
LA:
From Parrotline, Heh, funny story.
“I don’t know, dare we call it self-hatred?” Hahahaha.
Yeah, “dare” you? That’s not the least of things you “dare” to do…among which is “dare” to refute her arguments without resorting to vicious personal attacks.
(Not you of course LA, NEVER YOU I am sure, but most Malkin/BushitlerchimpyMcHalliburton haters.)
Comment by Con Ky — May 19, 2006 @ 2:14 pm
I like the correclation that by hating Malking we hate Bush and thus undermine our country!
Con: your whole argument is a shell game. If I answer part A, Ihave neglected part B. Instead, let me provide my own crude analogy: did you know anyone who got a fake ID in high school/college. Did they consult with Mexicans? I have now refuted your argument with random question but let me use a few more big words to provide the overbearing pomposity to prevent an actual conversation from happening and instead leave in high dudgeon claiming we (the royal sense) were not engaged by our opponent.
Comment by fulsome — May 19, 2006 @ 4:44 pm
Well Rounded Nerds, indeed.
Comment by LA — May 19, 2006 @ 5:33 pm
fulsome = royal dumbass
“I have now refuted your argument with [sic} random question.” Yeah, you “schooled” me didn’t you. Hahahaha.
Again, you guys are always good for a chuckle but not to be taken seriously.
Who said anything about “undermining the country?” Can’t you hate Malkin/Bush and still be a LOYAL PATRIOT? Still waiting for a “real” refutation of Michelle’s point, not one you are simply imagining in your royal mind.
Anon! Take thee hither post-haste to ye olde House of Latte and sippe upon a grande mochachino ye royal dumbass.
Comment by Con Ky — May 19, 2006 @ 5:53 pm
I’m sorry - what exactly was Malkin’s point again?
Something about Beaners?
Comment by LA — May 19, 2006 @ 5:54 pm
Thanks, con ky. Cearly, the appropriate way to respond to someone who says you don’t have an argument is to point out that I never made an argument. If you have a point — other than to claim Malky is almost always wrong but we should respect her if she makes a claim (some Mexicans provided fake IDs to a terrorist) that is factually true but inferentially worthless (ergo Mexicans will continue to provide fake IDs to terrorists WHO ARE ALREADY IN DC!!!!1!) — then please explain it again. And use small words so our simple brains can understand.
P.S. If you’re going to make fun of someone else’s typo, don’t make one yourself.
Comment by fulsome — May 19, 2006 @ 9:03 pm
His point is that you’re a dumbass. So there.
Comment by A to the non. — May 19, 2006 @ 10:56 pm
Actually, issuing more green cards isn’t likely to solve the problem. There are so many people who would like to come to the US from around the world that you would simply be inviting in more people to begin with. Once they decided to overstay their work visas (as so many of them inevitably do) they would resort to obtaining false documents. Increasing the number of green card holders would, very likely, increase the demand for false identification in the long run. A better strategy would be to beef up security dramatically and issue fewer green cards.
Comment by mark — May 20, 2006 @ 8:57 pm
Also, as for all this talk about whether Michelle Malkin likes Mexicans or not: it is irrelevant what her feelings are regarding Mexicans. That has nothing to do with the issue of whether or not her pointing out the link between illegal immigration and documentation is valid.
If Michelle Malkin claims that people from Mexico usually speak Spanish, she would be correct. Stating that Michelle Malkin doesn’t like Mexicans (regardless of whether this is true or not) doesn’t negate that fact.
Comment by mark — May 20, 2006 @ 9:02 pm
Mark–
If the problem is having people stay past the expiration of their work visas, why not allow them to apply for permanent residency when they’re here? That would give them motivation to stay employed and stay out of trouble. If someone can do that for five years, I’d be happy to have them stay permanently.
Con–
Why has even President Bush acknowledged that terrorism and immigration are linked? I’ll let you in on a little secret, Rain Man: President Bush is an idiot.
Also, the fact is that a lot of what you say is simply false. Check out the bar graph on page 8 of this study. As you can see, the rate of TOTAL immigration from Mexico increased at a constant rate (until recently, now it’s leveling off). But the number of LEGAL immigrants has fallen. That’s what’s been causing the big increase in illegal immigration — instead of raising the number of green cards issued to keep up with demand, we cut back. Now we issue half as many as we did in 1985.
But notice how total immigration was unaffected.
What did affect the immigration rate? The falling birthrate in Mexico, beginning in 1975. It’s been falling ever since, so we can expect to see the level of Mexican immigration to level off over the next 20 years.
A couple of other things you got wrong: crossing the border is not “ridiculously easy.” 400 people died trying it last year. And I don’t know if you even understand what’s meant by “catch and release.” It applied only to non-Mexicans. Mexicans go right back home when they’re caught staying here illegally. More than half of all illegal immigrants are from Mexico, and the president’s entire program is directed toward them.
As for the people waiting, I don’t see why we can’t give work permits to them and the people who came here illegally at the same time.
As for people who live in silly universes, how about people like you and Malkin, who think that the way to combat terrorism is to issue an ID card to immigrants that can’t be forged. You know what they’ll do instead of trying to forge them? They’ll forge documents that show that they’re American citizens. You know, the way the do right now.
If Malkin were really concerned about terrorism, why isn’t she saying that we ought to search all the cargo containers that come into this country? How about an unforgable ID for airport workers?
Comment by gordo — May 21, 2006 @ 11:01 am
If the problem is having people stay past the expiration of their work visas, why not allow them to apply for permanent residency when they’re here? That would give them motivation to stay employed and stay out of trouble. If someone can do that for five years, I’d be happy to have them stay permanently.
I recommend reading some of the articles on this blog:
http://www.parapundit.com/
Here are a few to get started on:
This article points out that even 4th generation Mexican-Americans have a greater than 40% high school dropout rate and a less than 10% rate of post-high school education:
http://www.parapundit.com/archives/002683.html#002683
This article discusses one aspect of the often exaggerated economic benefits illegal immigrants provide the American economy:
http://www.parapundit.com/archives/003406.html#003406
This discusses Senator Sessions recent comments on the current Senate proposal (which is very much like what you are advocating - allowing guest workers to become permanent residents):
http://www.parapundit.com/archives/003468.html
Finally, as much as you might hate them, I also recommend reading some articles from Steve Sailer and VDARE and carefully consider what they are arguing:
http://isteve.com/
http://www.vdare.com/
Comment by mark — May 22, 2006 @ 2:14 am
Fatso:
There are so many things wrong with your post, it is pointless to respond to all of them.
Suffice it to say, as far as arguments go, saying that “Bush is an idiot” only reinforces my opinion that you are a royal dumbass with no real desire to debate the issue at hand.
Falling birth rate in Mexico? Huh?? You seem to like bringing up things I never said and trying to knock them down, as if you have proved something. Give it a rest.
Saying “400 people died” crossing the border is meaningless without context. (What is your source for that anyway?) Hmm..how many people actually MAKE IT ALIVE across the border in any given year? That’s the REAL issue knucklehead! The reason we are having this whole debate?! Do you get it now? If your contention that the border is “so difficult to cross” were taken as true, then we wouldn’t be discussing millions of illegal immigrants in this country would we dumbass?
See, that’s why no one will ever take you seriously - you either speak in royal fantasyland statements, or else make completely dumbass statements with no relevance or context. When half a million people or more can walk across your border in any given year, I’d say you have a border that’s pretty damn ridiculously to cross. So would anyone who takes the issue seriously. You, on other hand, in your desire to showcase your royal ignorance, (mission accomplished) and somehow prove me wrong, throw out this point: “Oh yeah! well 400 people died crossing! So WTF is your point? Yes, people die every day in every type of situation. They die playing golf and trying to get into Disneyland too, does that mean golf is a grueling sport and that its hard to get in Disneyland?
Seriously, what is your problem?
No one on this planet could possibly disagree with how easy it is to cross our southern land border, and yet here you are, the royal dumbass, trying to argue exactly the opposite.
Sadly, you’re not even good for a chuckle any more. You used to be fun to laugh at, with your royal pretensions, but your attempts at serious arguments are bringin’ me down! Stick with comedy. Methinks thou wouldst make a most hilarious Court Jester LOL.
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